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Being Human

Mar 14, 2023

Welcome to Episode 117 of the Being Human Podcast:  Catching Foxes Interview w/ Dr. Greg: Getting Modern Therapy Right (Part 1)


There’s a twist on this week’s episode: we’re sharing an interview with Dr. Greg! Catching Foxes podcast hosts Luke and Gomer - both college friends of Dr. Greg - recently interviewed him for their popular show and gave us permission to re-publish the conversation*.

In this first part of their two-part long-form discussion, they zero in on some of the problems with modern therapy, discuss the importance of integrating faith into the practice of psychology, and look at the way that “parts work” can help. 

*Mature Content


Discussed in this episode:

  • What’s missing from modern psychology? 

  • The way that Cartesian dualism has influenced the field of psychology;

  • The lack of a standard in mental health; 

  • Dr. Greg’s experience of experimenting with a new model of accompaniment;

  • How a blueprint of the human person as outlined by JP2 can be used to approach psychological disorders;

  • What happens when mental health struggles impact areas of our spiritual life?

  • Internal Family Systems theory (or “parts work”) and the way that it fits with Pope St. John Paul II’s anthropology;

  •  “Parts work” (IFS theory) as a way to practically and experientially understand God’s mercy. 


Resources mentioned or relevant:

  • Download The Integrated App for access to free audio exercises, the Catholic Mindfulness Virtual Retreat, courses, prayer resources, and more; 

  • Become a member of the Integrated Life Community to get access to every course Dr. Greg has created, plus the opportunity to participate in Integrated LIVE’s - weekly, Mentor hosted Q&As covering topics like boundaries, communication, trauma, forgiveness, and more!

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